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Welcome.

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Thank for joining us this
morning, everyone.

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I'm Mike Scott.

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(Excuse me, I have a frog in my
throat.)

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I'm the Chief Information
Accessibility Officer with the

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State of Illinois Department of
Innovation and Technology.

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Thanks for joining us this
morning to celebrate the 13th

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Annual Global Accessibility
Awareness Day.

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We're going to be sharing some
information about accessibility,

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some highlights, a little
challenge at the end.

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I won't give too much away, but
before we get into that, just a

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little bit of housekeeping. You
are all muted.

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Please keep yourself muted
during the presentation.

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If if you would like to chat in
some questions, we'll keep an

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eye on those and answer them
either as we go or at the end if

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we've got some time.

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If you've got something urgent,
you can you can raise your hand

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using Control Shift R if you're
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Also, if you need closed
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captions, we've got Webex
automatic captions running.

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There's a CC button should be in
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You can show those at any time.

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And we've also got two wonderful
interpreters with us today.

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So appreciate them being with
us.

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I'm going to just give a little
bit of thanks before we jump

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into our agenda. I'm watching
the numbers of participants go

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up.

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So thanks everybody for coming.

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I want to shout out to it looks
like we've got a great mix staff

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from DoIT, DHS, DRS, I think I
see a DHR on there, CMS.

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Thanks to everybody from the CMS
eLearning Round Table.

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I know we co opted your meeting
today, but please listen in and

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this will be relevant to you
too.

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Special thanks to our
participants from the Governor's

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office, Attorney General's
office, I see some members of

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the Interagency Committee on
Employees with Disabilities, our

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long time co conspirators with
the Illinois Assistive

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Technology Program and I think I
see some University of Illinois

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partners there as well.

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Special thanks to our corporate
partners who could be with us

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Cisco, Google, Siteimprove.

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Thanks for all the work that
you've done over the last few

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years to help us make our IT and
your IT more accessible.

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We really appreciate all that.

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So thank you for all you've done
for us.

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And special thanks, of course to
our partners from the advocacy

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groups to Equip for Equality,
National Federation of the

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Blind.

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Andrew from Equip is going to be
talking with us in just a moment

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too.

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But I want to wrap that up with
a special thanks and welcome to

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Sanjay Gupta, our Secretary of
DoIT and CIO of the State of

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Illinois.

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Thanks for being here.

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Secretary Gupta, would you like
to share a few words?

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Yes, thank you, Mike, and good
morning, everyone.

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This is an important part of
what we do in the state of

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Illinois is accessibility.

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And yes, I won't steal Mike's
thunder here, but there is a lot

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of elements around accessibility
that are relevant to a large

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part of our resident population
and even our state staff

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employees.

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I have been working in this
space for almost a decade

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myself, so have a a first hand
experience in the public sector

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trying to see how we can improve
accessibility.

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There's several aspects of
accessibility that I just want

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to briefly touch about.

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First and foremost is awareness.

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Awareness in terms of that there
are specific accessibility

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requirements that we all have to
be mindful of and there's a good

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reason why they have to be
complied with and met with.

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Having said that, I'll also say
that I've been in the IT world

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for quite some time now, private
sector and public sector now.

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But I've also noticed that even
though specific laws were

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enacted decades ago, that
awareness is still, let's say,

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wanting more to be there.

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And so I would encourage all of
you, whether today or tomorrow

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or anytime, take a few minutes
to please just make yourself

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aware of this.

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I'm so glad that we have Mike on
our team.

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For some of you who worked with
Mike in this space, I don't know

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of any other person which I said
I've worked in the public sector

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for almost 7-8 now years or more
who is knowledgeable, who is

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passionate, who has dedicated
his career for this aspect of

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accessibility.

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That gives you an indication of
how important this field of

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accessibility is for him
personally and professionally.

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And I applaud him and has
applaud his dedication to this

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and the work he's done for the
State of Illinois over his

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career so far. It's just
breathtaking and I think we all

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should take a little bit of
inspiration for the work Mike

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does and continues to do for the
state of Illinois.

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It's critical work, it's
important work, it's vital work

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and it hurts my feelings and my
heart when I hear sometimes

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partners, individuals or
entities talk about

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accessibility

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in what I call a light manner,
because I know this is not a

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light topic and again I would
encourage all of us to do our

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part.

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So that was awareness.

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The second part is we are all
contributors of creating

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documents amongst other things
we do every day.

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Whether it's an e-mail we're
writing or we're creating a Word

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document or a PowerPoint
document.

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The second aspect of this is
this is everyone's job, myself

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included, including everyone on
this call here to create

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documents, to offer documents
which have accessibility as a

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requirement to start with.

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And I'll tell you some some
examples that which I think I

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know of.

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I'm probably stealing Mike's
thunder here because he's

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probably going to talk about it,
but I'll just sort of give you

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my perspective on it.

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Is that a lot of us if we did
even a very little part of what

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we do every day in creating
documents and making sure that

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we are keeping the eye on
accessibility.

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It's a very simple ask for all
of us to do, but it goes a long

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ways in improving accessibility
of all of our work products.

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If you create author document
that are accessible to begin

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with or if not 100% accessible
you have at least made what I

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call more than 50% effort
towards making a document

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accessible.

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When you author a document
keeping accessibility in mind.

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So again, my my call for action
for all of us here today is

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please, please, please.

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It's a very simple thing in the
tools we use in our office

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suite, whether it's e-mail,
whether it is a Word document,

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whether it's a PowerPoint
document, whether it's an Excel

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document, There are very simple
things each of us can be doing

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as we offer these documents to
ensure that the documents are

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accessible.

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So, so, so my request to you is
take that extra 30 minutes if

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you have to try and understand
what is the element of authoring

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documents that are accessible
because that'll help improve our

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state's ability to produce all
of our work products in an

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accessible manner.

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So awareness and we all play a
part in it.

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So please don't think that this
is Mike's job or somebody else's

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job.

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It's each and every one of our
job to create document that are

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accessible and when we see work
products that are not

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accessible, to help us make them
more accessible, if not 100%

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accessible, which would be the
ultimate goal.

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So with that said, I know it's a
longer introduction than

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probably you may have thought
about, but I just wanted to

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share my sentiment, my support,
my conviction that this is an

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important topic for us at the
State.

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We are taking it seriously and I
would urge all of us to consider

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to do each of our parts in
making the state more

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accessible.

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So with that said, Mike, I'm
going to turn it back to you.

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Thank you so much Secretary.

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We very much appreciate your
support and and the challenge we

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will get into that a little
later today but what we can all

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do to to do our part at least
the first step.

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So we we have an assignment
coming up that the Secretary has

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alluded to.

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Thank you again.

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Before we get to that I do want
to jump in just with a little

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bit of news what's new as
Secretary said you know

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accessibility is not new.

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We were looking up some of the
dates earlier this morning, the

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first Illinois Web Accessibility
Standards were adopted all the

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way back in 2002 and then the
IITAA the state law in 2007.

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This isn't new stuff but we keep
plugging, we keep trying and as

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the Secretary said you know we
still have a ways to go but you

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know we're going to keep working
there.

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So being here today is part of
that We appreciate that very

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much. New on the radar, very
new, very fresh, within the last

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month.

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The big news, if you haven't
heard it already, is the United

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States Department of Justice,
the DOJ,

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issued an official rule under
Title II of the Americans with

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Disabilities Act, and the ADA,
if you remember, was passed in

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1990, before technology as we
know it today even existed.

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It doesn't speak specifically to
information technology, websites

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in any way because it wasn't
around.

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But the DOJ has issued an
official rule that says under

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Title II, which applies to state
and local governments, the ADA

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00:10:01.753 --> 00:10:06.178
requires that web information
and services do have to be

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accessible and do have to comply
with the Web Content

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Accessibility Guidelines 2.1
Level AA,  little bit of a

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mouthful there.

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The good news there is, is that
in the state of Illinois we are

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ready well along that path.

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Again, not that we're there yet.

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We certainly have work to do,
but the IITAA has been requiring

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compliance with WCAG 2.0 since
its origins and for the last six

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years since WCAG 2.1 has been
out, we have been encouraging

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compliance with WCAG 2.1.

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So the DOJ ruling really just
solidifies what we have been

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working towards already.

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And for those of you on the call
today who participated in in the

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00:10:55.034 --> 00:10:59.205
fall in November with the IITAA
Work Group, we get together once

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00:10:59.205 --> 00:11:02.798
every three years as required by
the law to revisit our

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00:11:02.798 --> 00:11:03.440
standards.

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And at that time we knew this
rule was in the works.

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We didn't know what exactly what
it was going to say and the

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recommendation of the work group
was let's hold where we're at

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00:11:13.757 --> 00:11:17.887
which is WCAG 2.0 and as soon as
this rule comes out let's follow

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00:11:17.887 --> 00:11:18.200
suit.

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So I want to tell you just a
little bit more about the rule

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and then we'll talk about what
we're doing to update the IITAA

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and we'll go from there.

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So a few other key things about
this rule.

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It applies to all state and
local governments again in in

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the state we're in good shape.

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Local governments may have a bit
of a scramble ahead of them.

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It applies to web information,
websites, web application and

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mobile apps specifically.

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So that's good news.

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Again, WCAG 2.1 AA.

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It's industry standard.

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We're we're feeling good about
that.

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Interestingly, the rule includes
a few limited exceptions. They

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actually reduced some of the
exceptions they were originally

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thinking of.

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There are some exceptions to
compliance primarily for really,

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really old stuff that is only
out for archival purposes.

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So there are some exceptions
based on that.

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It is very limited and and and
there's a few other exceptions

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related to that.

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Interestingly though and in a
part of the rule that we've come

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across in reading the fine print
is that it also limits the idea

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of what what's referred to as
conforming alternate content.

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And what that is it's actually a
concept that the that the WCAG

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guidelines introduced it's the
idea that you know say you have

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a website and it not compliant
it's not accessible.

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One way to approach
accessibility compliance would

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be to say I'm going to make it
another version, a text only

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version of a website and it will
have all the same information

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and it will be accessible.

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That was discouraged but allowed
under the WCAG guidelines.

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The DOJ rule specifically says
we don't want that to be

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misused.

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Many of you who remember the bad
old days of text only versions

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00:12:58.164 --> 00:12:59.720
of websites, it never worked
well.

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DOJ lays out, you know, the full
rationale for why it just was

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never really effective.

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And they very specifically say
that under their rule,

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conforming alternate content,
having a second accessible

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version of whatever it is, is
not acceptable unless it is

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simply technically impossible.

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So they do leave the door open a
little bit, you know, maybe

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there's a brand new technology
related, you know, virtual

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reality or something like that,
something so cutting edge that

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we haven't quite figured it out
yet from an accessibility

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standpoint.

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They do leave the door open
there to provide accessibility

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through an alternate version in
those cases.

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But they say if it's possible we
need to make the primary version

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accessible.

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They specifically say that you
know it's it's not for

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convenience, it's not for lack
of knowledge and they

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specifically say that lack of
expertise or training doesn't

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cut it.

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So they have, they have put some
very important and I think very

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valuable boundaries guardrails
around this idea having

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conforming alternate versions
that will be a little bit of a

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change.

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I will say we have used those in
some instances we're going to,

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we're going to have to not but I
think again we're well

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positioned to take that next
step.

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So that's actually the part of
the rule that I'm most excited

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00:14:12.382 --> 00:14:12.640
about.

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So that's good news.

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You may also if you look at the
rule, you may also notice that

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00:14:19.221 --> 00:14:23.801
they established a compliance
date and they actually for

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00:14:23.801 --> 00:14:28.461
government, states our size,
they set that out two years,

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00:14:28.461 --> 00:14:32.640
April 24th, 2026 and I put a
little asterisk there.

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That's to say, doesn't the law
already apply?

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And the answer is yes, it really
does.

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So you may notice in the rule
that there's a compliance date

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that's two years out.

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DOJ even says that's kind of
just like an aspirational

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You know, if you need it, if you
need it, if you work towards

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targets, goals work towards
that.

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But you really already have to
do this.

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They say that the ADA already
requires it, in Illinois, the

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IITAA already requires it.

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So if you do happen to see that
rule, you know great, we'll

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focus, we'll push hard for the
next two years, but we need to

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be there already.

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So I just wanted to clarify
that.

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Regarding the IITA update again
when we met in November, the

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work group, decided that we
would stick where we were, WCAG

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2.0

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until the DOJ decided, and they
did.

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So we are making the change.

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We are updating IITAA.

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We're releasing IITAA 2.1 that
requires compliance with WCAG

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2.1.

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Again the the changes there
aren't aren't major, we're

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already well on that path, but
we are officially making that

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change and we're making it
effective June 24th, 2024, which

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is the same date the DOJ rule is
effective.

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So IITAA just kind of reinforces
what the DOJ rule is requiring

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of us.

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IITAA does go a little bit
further because while the DOJ

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rule applies specifically to web
and mobile apps, IITAA applies

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to all IT.

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So IITAA is still important
because it fills in some of

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those gaps.

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If you are interested, the
theIITAA 2.1 standards are

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posted on the DoIT website.

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This is a screenshot of
doit.illinois.gov under

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initiatives, accessibility,
IITAA and the IITAA 2.1

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standards.

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It's got the little blurb
introducing it and if you're

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looking closely in the closing

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or the starting paragraph here,
it says information technologies

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that are compliant

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compliant with WCAG 2.1 Level AA
are compliant with IITAA.

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So if you compare the 2.0
version which is still out there

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with the 2.1, we just did a find
and replace on WCAG 2.0 and

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replaced it with 2.1.

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So good news, not a major change
for us, one that we were looking

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forward to, but one that we are
making official as of June 24th.

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It's not retroactive, but going
ahead we're going to be

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requiring, the state of
Illinois, we're requiring

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compliance with WCAG 2.1 Level
AA.

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I'm not going to get into the
weeds on this today, but we did

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in November go over there are 12
new single A and AA success

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criteria that are in WCAG 2.1.

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Not going to go into those weeds
today there none of them are

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revolutionary.

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They do make some nice advances
but again these are guidelines

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that have been out for six
years.

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We've already been encouraging
compliance with them.

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If you do have any questions
about any of the specific

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criteria, feel free to contact
me and and we're happy to do a

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follow up discussion on any of
them if you're interested.

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But again, not a not a
revolutionary change for us.

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We were already headed firmly in
that direction.

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So with that update, you know
the big news, that's the

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exciting news about what's new
in accessibility.

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We're looking you know, for that
to kick off, you know, renewed

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interest.

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Certainly DOJ is going to be
looking at over our shoulders.

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There might be an increase in
lawsuits because of this.

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But again, we're well positioned
and we're just going to keep

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pushing forward.

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So with that all in mind, I'm
going to take a breath here,

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catch my breath and I want to
invite Andrew Webb, who has been

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a partner with us since the
creation of my position here at

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DoIT and even before that with
Equip for Equality.

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And I want to let Andrew share
his thoughts about the impact

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and importance of accessibility.

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Andrew, you're good to go?

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Sure.

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Thank you very much, Mike

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Appreciate your comments and I
appreciate the introduction.

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But just a few words here.

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As Mike said, regarding
referencing the importance and

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the impact and the breadth of
considerations of digital

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accessibility and making online
and digital resources impactful,

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I think a good way to
conceptualize this right from

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the beginning is to go over some
statistics and possibly the

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statistics are up on the slide
already.

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But just to look at the CDC's
statistics in the state profile

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of Illinois about the number of
people in our state alone who

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have various types of
disabilities, these are, you

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know, these are meaningful
numbers.

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So there it's estimated that
roughly 28% of residents of

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Illinois have some type of
disability at that rate in

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itself is almost 3 million
people.

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Within that group, around 4% are
estimated to have visual

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disabilities.

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So we're talking pretty close to
half a million people with

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visual disabilities, double that
number, roughly have some type

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of hearing disability.

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Also, almost a million people
and then nearly a million and a

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half residents of Illinois have
some sort of a cognitive

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disability.

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So considerations of
accessibility and making online

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and digital resources accessible
to folks with disability.

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This has a huge, huge impact
when when resources are

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accessible, it opens up worlds
and services to lots and lots of

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people all around us.

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And conversely, when there are
accessibility barriers, that

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makes many of those resources
unavailable to lots and lots of

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people. Obviously problematic
and obviously something we all

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want to avoid. Working as an
attorney at Equip for Equality

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which for those of you not
familiar with us, we are

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essentially a not-for-profit
legal rights organization

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advocating for the rights of
people with disabilities

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throughout Illinois.

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We based on community feedback
and based on our expirations of

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you know in our legal work, we
see the ramifications of those

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digital accessibility barriers
all the time.

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And then speaking for myself
personally, I have both, I am

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blind and I am also hard of
hearing.

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So these accessibility
considerations are extremely

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important and impactful to me
and my own life.

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So I see it both personally and
professionally and you know it's

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huge and I think they the key
thing to bear in mind here and

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is why it's so encouraging to
see such a a wide cross section

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of folks and organizations
represented in this meeting.

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It is critically important for
companies and organizations to

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be thinking of accessibility on
the front end.

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So just sort of bake
accessibility into to the jargon

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and to procedural practices.

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And to be thinking about
accessibility from the beginning

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and to make sure the resources
are made accessible in their

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design rather than to encounter
issues down the road that have

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to be fixed retroactively.

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Which I think as Mike and many
of us can attest, that's always

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more difficult to fix a fix
accessibility after the fact

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rather than to do it right in
the beginning.

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I think another thing that we
all would recognize is that our

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world has become more and more
virtual particularly in recent

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00:22:02.661 --> 00:22:07.482
years and especially as we all
know that COVID accelerated this

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00:22:07.482 --> 00:22:12.379
transition that so much more of
our work and our interaction and

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our commercial activities have
become virtual.

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00:22:16.480 --> 00:22:21.330
And the in the past several
years, especially since the

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pandemic and for folks with
disabilities in particular,

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00:22:26.181 --> 00:22:28.520
that's sort of a mixed bag.

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00:22:28.520 --> 00:22:33.054
It's opened up some wonderful
opportunities for people to be

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00:22:33.054 --> 00:22:37.440
able to access services more
easily and more conveniently.

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Yet at the same time, if those
resources, if digital resources

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00:22:42.102 --> 00:22:46.541
have accessibility barriers, it
creates, you know, it forecloses

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00:22:46.541 --> 00:22:50.843
a lot of opportunities and it
makes it much more difficult for

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00:22:50.843 --> 00:22:54.804
folks with disabilities to
access many of those resources

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00:22:54.804 --> 00:22:58.560
on the same footing as their
their non disabled peers.

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So this just points to the
critical importance of universal

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accessibility and website
design.

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It's something that many that
agencies across the state of

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Illinois have gotten much have
been getting much better about

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in recent years.

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00:23:18.360 --> 00:23:23.821
And Mike and his colleagues at
DoIT have had everything to do

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00:23:23.821 --> 00:23:26.200
with making that a reality.

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And also if it points to the
importance of making documents

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00:23:32.135 --> 00:23:37.578
accessible, to making documents
available in an accessible

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00:23:37.578 --> 00:23:42.560
format to folks with different
kinds of disabilities.

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Also when meetings are held
virtually such as webcast or

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00:23:48.037 --> 00:23:53.515
this meeting, it's so important
that everybody be aware of the

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00:23:53.515 --> 00:23:58.038
accessible communication
features that are that are

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00:23:58.038 --> 00:24:00.560
available on these platforms.

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00:24:01.400 --> 00:24:05.350
It's important that users have
access to those features and

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00:24:05.350 --> 00:24:09.696
it's important that meeting host
be sufficiently knowledgeable in

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00:24:09.696 --> 00:24:13.712
those features as to actually
have them active and available

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00:24:13.712 --> 00:24:17.400
and to communicate those
features to meeting attendees.

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So it's really encouraging that
we're having this meeting today.

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It's great to see so many people
on the meeting and clearly all

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00:24:25.600 --> 00:24:29.932
of you recognize the impact that
this work and these efforts have

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00:24:29.932 --> 00:24:33.280
on our broader community and our
state and beyond.

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00:24:34.120 --> 00:24:38.496
And we think it's, I'm sure it's
onward and upward from here and

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00:24:38.496 --> 00:24:40.920
it's good to be spreading the
word.

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00:24:40.920 --> 00:24:41.400
Thanks.

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Thank you so much, Andrew.

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00:24:44.880 --> 00:24:47.568
And again Andrew has been a key
partner along with Equip for

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00:24:47.568 --> 00:24:49.640
Equality and National Federation
of the Blind.

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00:24:49.640 --> 00:24:52.854
Shout out again for everything
they've done to keep us honest

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00:24:52.854 --> 00:24:56.069
and keep us moving in the right
direction, wouldn't have been

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00:24:56.069 --> 00:24:58.040
here without you, so appreciate
that.

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00:24:59.720 --> 00:25:04.936
So what I want to share next is
where you all can get involved

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00:25:04.936 --> 00:25:09.821
and as Secretary alluded to and
Andrew also reiterated the

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00:25:09.821 --> 00:25:15.119
importance of accessibility and
what we're calling everyday IT.

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00:25:15.280 --> 00:25:16.720
So here in DoIT

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00:25:16.720 --> 00:25:21.610
You know we're dealing with the
big systems, enterprise stuff,

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00:25:21.610 --> 00:25:25.956
you know whole agency web
applications and we've come a

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00:25:25.956 --> 00:25:30.459
long way we've integrated into
the whole state governance

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00:25:30.459 --> 00:25:31.080
process.

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00:25:31.080 --> 00:25:35.474
We've asked about accessibility
you know far more often, far

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00:25:35.474 --> 00:25:39.869
earlier than we ever did before
and you know we work closely

fe6d7e6c-5ff7-47d0-843f-d755b2ab2033-2
00:25:39.869 --> 00:25:44.048
with our partners again shout
out to Cisco and Google and

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00:25:44.048 --> 00:25:48.443
Siteimprove I think are on the
call today but that's not all

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00:25:48.443 --> 00:25:52.477
there is to accessibility and
again you know electronic

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00:25:52.477 --> 00:25:56.080
documents the way we communicate
today is all IT.

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00:25:56.800 --> 00:26:00.614
So to kind of help distinguish
what DoIT is doing and

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00:26:00.614 --> 00:26:04.994
everything else, we're calling
this everyday IT, the everyday

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00:26:04.994 --> 00:26:09.444
IT stuff that we're all dealing
with everyday, every one of us

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00:26:09.444 --> 00:26:13.894
and we'd like to throw out kind
of over the course of the next

271970e6-2f17-48ca-a402-9af04e19490a-4
00:26:13.894 --> 00:26:17.921
year here an ongoing series of
everyday IT accessibility

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00:26:17.921 --> 00:26:22.371
challenges all focused on the
little things that you can do to

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00:26:22.371 --> 00:26:25.479
help make your everyday IT more
accessible.

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00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:29.741
And hopefully to start just
thinking about accessibility on

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00:26:29.741 --> 00:26:33.027
a on a more regular basis and
learning that hey maybe it's

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00:26:33.027 --> 00:26:36.480
really not as complicated and
hard as I maybe thought it was.

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00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:40.542
A lot of this stuff is once you
see it once you try it, you'll

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00:26:40.542 --> 00:26:44.604
think that's a piece of cake you
know, why didn't I already do

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00:26:44.604 --> 00:26:48.667
this and that's where we'd love
to get. So for today, our very

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00:26:48.667 --> 00:26:51.440
first everyday IT accessibility
challenge.

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00:26:51.800 --> 00:26:54.920
First, a little bit of
background information and I

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00:26:54.920 --> 00:26:58.640
think as Secretary alluded to,
we've got some great tools and

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00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:02.300
Microsoft is another important
partner of ours and there are

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00:27:02.300 --> 00:27:05.960
some great advancements that
have been made in the Microsoft

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00:27:05.960 --> 00:27:09.740
Office suite of tools like Word
and Outlook and PowerPoint and

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00:27:09.740 --> 00:27:10.280
etcetera.

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What I'm sharing on my screen
right here is a screenshot of of

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00:27:15.287 --> 00:27:16.280
Microsoft Word.

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00:27:16.800 --> 00:27:18.480
I've got a simple document in
it.

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It's got just a a picture of the
seal of the state of Illinois.

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00:27:22.360 --> 00:27:26.469
In that document I've got the
review ribbon open, and right on

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00:27:26.469 --> 00:27:30.710
that ribbon if you haven't seen
it before and you can all follow

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00:27:30.710 --> 00:27:32.080
along if you want to.

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00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:35.440
Right on the review ribbon there
is a Check Accessibility button.

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00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:38.943
Great big almost in the center
and it opens up a menu that has

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00:27:38.943 --> 00:27:40.000
some options in it.

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00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:42.724
Check accessibility, alt text
navigation, and a few other

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00:27:42.724 --> 00:27:44.040
options about accessibility.

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00:27:44.040 --> 00:27:47.040
So these are tools, nothing
extra to buy here.

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00:27:47.280 --> 00:27:49.567
These are tools that are built
right into the software that we

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00:27:49.567 --> 00:27:50.040
already have.

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00:27:50.440 --> 00:27:53.440
So maybe a quick thumbs up.

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00:27:53.480 --> 00:27:56.080
If you've seen this before, give
me a thumbs up.

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00:27:58.680 --> 00:28:00.160
I see a hand raised.

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OK

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00:28:01.520 --> 00:28:01.680
I see a few thumbs up.

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00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:02.480


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Excellent.

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00:28:04.040 --> 00:28:09.198
OK, Now, if this is new to you,
give me another reaction, a fire

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00:28:09.198 --> 00:28:13.722
or love or something else
besides a thumbs up if this is

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00:28:13.722 --> 00:28:14.040
new.

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00:28:14.040 --> 00:28:17.659
If you haven't seen this before,
chat in the chat, All right,

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00:28:17.659 --> 00:28:20.987
Well, hopefully if you've seen
this before, this will be

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00:28:20.987 --> 00:28:23.440
encouragement to actually make
use of it.

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00:28:23.760 --> 00:28:27.378
And if you haven't now you know,
So what I'm going to just show

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00:28:27.378 --> 00:28:28.000
real quick.

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00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:29.560
And again, we're just going to
scratch the surface.

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00:28:29.560 --> 00:28:30.680
We're going to keep it real
easy.

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00:28:30.680 --> 00:28:34.306
But where we're going to start
with here is, is using this

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00:28:34.306 --> 00:28:36.520
simple Word document as an
example.

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00:28:36.520 --> 00:28:39.271
Again, it's just a blank page
with a picture of the seal of

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00:28:39.271 --> 00:28:40.280
the state of Illinois.

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00:28:40.280 --> 00:28:43.752
In it we've got again, the
review ribbon with the check

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00:28:43.752 --> 00:28:45.240
accessibility menu open.

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00:28:45.520 --> 00:28:48.776
If you look down in the status
bar towards the bottom, a little

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00:28:48.776 --> 00:28:51.982
bit towards the left, there's
actually a little indicator that

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00:28:51.982 --> 00:28:53.560
says accessibility investigate.

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00:28:54.120 --> 00:28:57.222
And that's just our, again, a
feature we can turn on in Word

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00:28:57.222 --> 00:28:59.918
that will remind us if we're
doing something that it

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00:28:59.918 --> 00:29:01.800
recognizes as maybe being a
problem.

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00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:06.504
If it recognizes that it's
potentially a problem, it's

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00:29:06.504 --> 00:29:07.840
going to warn us about it.

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00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:10.412
And then clicking on that or
again going to the check

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00:29:10.412 --> 00:29:13.414
Accessibility button will bring
up the panel that we're looking

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00:29:13.414 --> 00:29:14.400
at on the right here.

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00:29:14.600 --> 00:29:18.309
So if I click on Check
Accessibility, it will then

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00:29:18.309 --> 00:29:22.600
bring up the accessibility panel
that we see on the right.

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00:29:22.600 --> 00:29:28.349
In this case, the accessibility
panel has a list of inspection

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00:29:28.349 --> 00:29:29.080
results.

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00:29:29.080 --> 00:29:30.640
There's there's a list of
errors.

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00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:34.053
There's only one error right now
because we got a really simple

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00:29:34.053 --> 00:29:37.200
document and it says missing
object description picture 1.

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00:29:37.600 --> 00:29:40.640
So it's a little bit obscure.

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00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:43.124
I wish they would use
straightforward language, but

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00:29:43.124 --> 00:29:45.800
you can probably figure out
missing object description.

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So if you're if you've ever
heard of the concept of

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alternate text or alt text,
that's what this is about.

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It does say it's about picture
one.

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If I were to click on that, it
would highlight that picture and

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it does down below

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if you were to scroll down, it
would give a little bit more

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00:29:58.952 --> 00:30:00.360
information about what's going
on here.

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00:30:01.040 --> 00:30:06.640
So again, newish tool, hopefully
will continue to get better.

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00:30:07.320 --> 00:30:09.870
Hopefully we'll continue to get
a little bit easier to

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00:30:09.870 --> 00:30:12.698
understand, but good enough to
make use of. So if I see this

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00:30:12.698 --> 00:30:15.480
error message missing object
description picture one, I can

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00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:17.520
read a little bit more about
what it means.

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00:30:18.120 --> 00:30:19.520
But I can also move on.

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If I move ahead and try to do
what it says here to fix it,

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what it's going to do, it's
going to bring up the Alt text

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panel built right into Word.

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So also this is also available
under the Review ribbon.

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Check Accessibility menu has Alt
text.

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I've now selected the image of
the state seal that I've got on

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00:30:42.122 --> 00:30:45.628
the left and it brings up the
alt text pane on the right that

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00:30:45.628 --> 00:30:48.400
has a great big box for me to
type something in.

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I will say the instructions that
come above it.

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There's a little bit there.

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Scrolled off the view here that
and it ends with 1-2 detailed

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sentences recommended

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00:30:55.840 --> 00:30:56.560


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That's maybe not the best
instruction.

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00:31:00.320 --> 00:31:03.126
Let me give you a just a little
crash course here on on alt

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00:31:03.126 --> 00:31:03.360
text.

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Alt text or alternate text to
give its full name is basically

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00:31:08.018 --> 00:31:12.289
what a screen reader will read
or display in Braille to someone

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00:31:12.289 --> 00:31:15.560
who is blind and can't see
what's on the screen.

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00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:19.741
So if I can't see that image, my
assistant technology, my screen

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00:31:19.741 --> 00:31:23.245
reader, is going to tell me
about it and it's going to say

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00:31:23.245 --> 00:31:23.840
something.

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AI isn't quite to the point yet
where it can figure out what to

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00:31:28.169 --> 00:31:28.640
say there.

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00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:32.108
We still get some humorous
results when we do try some of

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the new AI stuff that's in
development.

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Yesterday I ran AI on that image
of the state seal, which to just

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to describe it so we know we're
looking at, it's the seal.

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It's got a kind of gold cord
circle around the outside.

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It says seal the state of
Illinois.

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It's got the eagle holding the
red banner with the motto

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holding a shield with the stars
and stripes and a few things in

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the background.

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When I ran AI on it the other
day, it told me that it was a

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circle containing text, bowl of
soup, queen.

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So I have no idea what it was
thinking that day.

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But obviously AI is not quite
there.

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We're looking forward to it, but
we're not quite there yet.

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That's a good point here.

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If you were to click on this
generate alt text for me, you

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00:32:09.197 --> 00:32:10.520
might get some crazy responses.

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Don't use that yet.

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We're we're anxious to see where
AI will take us in the next year

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00:32:14.867 --> 00:32:15.240
or two.

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It's going to be good.

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00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:17.200
We're not quite there.

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So the question is then for me,

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What should I type?

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What should I write as the alt
text?

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00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:26.206
What should I tell a screen
reader to say if someone who's

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blind encounters this image?

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And what's a little bit
misleading in the instructions

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that I'm not showing on the
screen

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here is a lot of times we think
about or maybe the easiest way

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to think about alt text would be
to describe the image, what I

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00:32:36.870 --> 00:32:39.160
did a moment ago where I
described what it looked like.

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Normally that's not what we want
to do for alt text.

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What you need to ask yourself is
not what does the image look

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00:32:45.697 --> 00:32:47.960
like, but what does it
communicate.

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00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:50.320
And that means that context
matters.

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So the same image might
communicate something different

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00:32:53.938 --> 00:32:55.360
in different contexts.

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Let's imagine that I'm writing a
memo and I want it to look

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00:32:58.499 --> 00:33:00.480
official, so I'm putting the
seal on it.

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00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:03.560
So what this what this image is
communicating

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if this is going to become an
official memo, is that this is

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00:33:06.318 --> 00:33:08.760
an official document of the of
the state of Illinois.

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00:33:08.760 --> 00:33:13.532
And another good tip about alt
text is if there are words in

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00:33:13.532 --> 00:33:17.600
the image, they probably should
go in the alt text.

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00:33:17.600 --> 00:33:19.983
So I'm going to look at the
image and sure enough there's

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00:33:19.983 --> 00:33:20.600
words in there.

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00:33:20.600 --> 00:33:23.141
Seal of the State of Illinois,
the date of founding, a few

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00:33:23.141 --> 00:33:24.520
little things that I can't read.

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So I'm thinking about what am I
trying to communicate by

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00:33:27.718 --> 00:33:28.720
including this image.

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Are there any words and if so,
what combination of those things

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00:33:32.071 --> 00:33:33.240
give me what to say here.

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And to keep it really simple,
what I would type in is simply

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seal of the state of Illinois.

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00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:40.360
Those words are in the image.

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My intent in including it here
is to make it seem official.

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If someone were reading with a
screen reader that found it,

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00:33:46.981 --> 00:33:49.762
graphic Seal of the State of
Illinois is what it's going to

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00:33:49.762 --> 00:33:52.080
say and it's going to
communicate that this is an

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00:33:52.080 --> 00:33:54.120
official document of the state
of Illinois.

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00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:57.600
And that's really all there is
to it. Easier maybe

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you know, when I say it, it
sounds easy.

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00:33:59.480 --> 00:34:01.840
It's a little bit harder when
you're actually in the weeds

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00:34:01.840 --> 00:34:02.200
doing it.

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00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:05.240
But again, think about what does
it communicate,

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00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:09.380
look if there are words showing
in the image, and keep it

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00:34:09.380 --> 00:34:09.760
simple.

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So if this was a different
document, I mean, if this was a

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00:34:12.701 --> 00:34:15.501
document about the design of the
seal of the state of Illinois,

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00:34:15.501 --> 00:34:17.120
maybe I would go in and describe
it.

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But that's not what I'm
imagining in this context.

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00:34:19.600 --> 00:34:22.759
So communicate what I am meaning
to communicate and in this case

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00:34:22.759 --> 00:34:25.529
I'm communicating that there is
the seal of the state of

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00:34:25.529 --> 00:34:27.960
Illinois is stamped onto this
document virtually.

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00:34:28.640 --> 00:34:30.880
So there's a there's a crash
course on all text.

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00:34:34.240 --> 00:34:35.400
Easy enough to add it.

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00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:38.081
You can again go to, you know
select any image you might get

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00:34:38.081 --> 00:34:40.280
prompted to do that by the
accessibility checker.

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00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:41.720
Click an image.

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00:34:41.720 --> 00:34:43.560
Go to check accessibility and
alt text.

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00:34:43.560 --> 00:34:45.120
You can also right click the
image and pick it from there.

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00:34:45.120 --> 00:34:48.729
You'll get this alt text box, a
place to type, communicate what

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00:34:48.729 --> 00:34:52.113
it's communicating, include
words that are in the image and

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00:34:52.113 --> 00:34:52.960
keep it simple.

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00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:58.510
So with that understanding kind
of how easy it is to take the

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00:34:58.510 --> 00:35:02.058
first step down the
accessibility journey, including

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00:35:02.058 --> 00:35:06.275
alt text and using the checker
built into the Microsoft Office

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00:35:06.275 --> 00:35:07.280
suite of tools.

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00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:10.400
What I want to... Here's the
real challenge.

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00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:12.160
So that was just kind of the
lead up to it.

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00:35:12.720 --> 00:35:14.924
I do encourage you to play with
that and get familiar with

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00:35:14.924 --> 00:35:16.120
what's there and learn about it.

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00:35:16.680 --> 00:35:17.920
But here's the real challenge.

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00:35:18.520 --> 00:35:23.175
Microsoft has an interesting,
maybe secret way that we can

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00:35:23.175 --> 00:35:27.120
prompt other people to think
about accessibility.

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00:35:27.520 --> 00:35:29.560
And this is a setting in
Outlook.

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And what I'm sharing on the
screen here is it's a screenshot

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00:35:33.620 --> 00:35:34.760
of the web browser.

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00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:36.160
And this is something that you
need to

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00:35:36.160 --> 00:35:38.419
You can't do this through the
Outlook program, but you

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00:35:38.419 --> 00:35:40.720
actually need to go to your
Outlook account on the web.

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00:35:40.720 --> 00:35:41.040


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00:35:41.040 --> 00:35:42.720
So I've got a screenshot of the
web browser.

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00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:45.200
I'm at outlook.office.com.

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00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:46.840
You can go there too

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00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:50.463
If you've got an Outlook
account, you sign in with your

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00:35:50.463 --> 00:35:51.240
credentials.

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00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:55.240
So at outlook.office.com I'm
signed in.

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00:35:55.240 --> 00:35:57.452
You can't quite see it in the
screenshot, but in the upper

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00:35:57.452 --> 00:35:59.740
right I've got a little profile
picture and there's a little

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00:35:59.740 --> 00:36:01.240
gear icon which is the settings
button.

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00:36:01.720 --> 00:36:04.326
So you'll find the settings
button, you'll click it and then

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00:36:04.326 --> 00:36:06.933
you'll get what I'm sharing on
the screen here, which is the

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00:36:06.933 --> 00:36:08.600
settings, the Outlook settings
window.

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00:36:09.120 --> 00:36:13.166
So in this settings window I'm
going to go to General, then I'm

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00:36:13.166 --> 00:36:16.959
going to go to Accessibility,
and then I'm going to look in

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00:36:16.959 --> 00:36:21.068
the accessibility panel for this
interesting check box that says

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00:36:21.068 --> 00:36:24.039
ask senders to send content
that's accessible.

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00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:28.089
And above it, it says you can
let senders know that you prefer

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00:36:28.089 --> 00:36:31.160
accessible content by selecting
the check box below.

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00:36:31.560 --> 00:36:35.097
People who send you e-mail will
be reminded to make their

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00:36:35.097 --> 00:36:39.000
messages accessible and can get
information about how to do it.

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00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:42.320
So that's the challenge we're
going to leave you with today.

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00:36:42.680 --> 00:36:46.552
OK, we've got we've got these
instructions up on our website,

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00:36:46.552 --> 00:36:50.488
so you don't have to memorize
it, but you'll basically want to

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00:36:50.488 --> 00:36:54.236
go to outlook.office.com, sign
in, go to Settings, General,

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00:36:54.236 --> 00:36:56.360
Accessibility and check that
box.

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00:36:56.360 --> 00:36:59.741
Ask senders to send content
that's accessible. In case

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00:36:59.741 --> 00:37:02.200
you're scared about what that
might do.

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00:37:02.280 --> 00:37:07.280
Don't worry, it's nothing that's
too intrusive.

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00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:10.771
I have an example on the screen
now of Outlook, so I've made

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00:37:10.771 --> 00:37:11.720
that setting change.

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00:37:11.720 --> 00:37:15.446
Now I've got a screenshot of
Outlook, the regular Outlook not

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00:37:15.446 --> 00:37:19.292
on the web, and I've started an
e-mail to myself because I have

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00:37:19.292 --> 00:37:22.838
that box checked and I titled it
Everyday IT Accessibility

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00:37:22.838 --> 00:37:23.440
challenge.

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00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:25.760
Hi, want to know how to make
your emails more accessible.

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00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:28.832
And then I've got my signature,
which has got my name and e-mail

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00:37:28.832 --> 00:37:30.440
address and so forth, and a
logo.

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00:37:30.720 --> 00:37:32.360
OK, and that's what I'm looking
at in this message.

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00:37:32.600 --> 00:37:36.192
And if you look closely, you may
see in the upper left it says

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00:37:36.192 --> 00:37:39.728
right, right above the to and
the send buttons just below the

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00:37:39.728 --> 00:37:43.264
menus it says we've found some
ways to make your message more

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00:37:43.264 --> 00:37:46.800
accessible and there's a link to
review accessibility issues.

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00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:48.360
So it's a pretty unobtrusive
warning.

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00:37:48.520 --> 00:37:50.716
It's not going to stop them from
sending their e-mail or do

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00:37:50.716 --> 00:37:52.400
anything that's going to get
them mad at you.

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00:37:52.600 --> 00:37:55.315
But it's just a little friendly
reminder, hey, you could do

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00:37:55.315 --> 00:37:57.760
something better for
accessibility with this message.

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00:37:58.240 --> 00:38:01.426
If if you were to click on that
link, you'll get something

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00:38:01.426 --> 00:38:02.560
that's very familiar.

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00:38:02.560 --> 00:38:07.964
So what we see now is the
accessibility panel open in the

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00:38:07.964 --> 00:38:10.480
Outlook new message window.

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00:38:10.720 --> 00:38:14.628
So looks just like the one we
were looking at in Microsoft

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00:38:14.628 --> 00:38:14.960
Word.

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00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:18.938
It's got inspection results,
errors, same thing we saw in

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00:38:18.938 --> 00:38:19.240
Word.

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00:38:19.240 --> 00:38:22.012
This time it says same thing,
missing object description,

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00:38:22.012 --> 00:38:23.160
picture one, same error.

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00:38:23.520 --> 00:38:26.902
But this time it's got
highlighted in my message the

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00:38:26.902 --> 00:38:31.051
DoIT logo that I have the at the
bottom of my signature and that

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00:38:31.051 --> 00:38:32.200
logo it says DoIT,

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00:38:32.200 --> 00:38:34.812
it's got the stylized state of
Illinois, says Illinois

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00:38:34.812 --> 00:38:36.760
Department of Innovation and
Technology.

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00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:38.760
So I bet you can guess what
would come next.

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00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:42.992
So say I was sending this e-mail
to somebody and they had that

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00:38:42.992 --> 00:38:44.080
that reminder on.

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00:38:44.080 --> 00:38:47.003
I got the little note to say,
look, and I get this information

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00:38:47.003 --> 00:38:49.880
about, hey, you got a problem,
There's some more instructions

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00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:52.758
on the screen here how to fix
it, and it's going to look just

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00:38:52.758 --> 00:38:53.640
like we saw before.

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00:38:54.200 --> 00:38:57.539
If I go proceed to fixing it,
I'm going to get the alt text

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00:38:57.539 --> 00:38:58.040
dialogue.

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00:38:58.640 --> 00:39:00.080
I got a box to type in.

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00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:03.423
I'm going to think, OK, what am
I communicating by including

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00:39:03.423 --> 00:39:04.960
this and are there words in it.

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00:39:05.160 --> 00:39:07.401
So first of all I'm
communicating that hey I'm with

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00:39:07.401 --> 00:39:09.685
DoIT, which is the Illinois
Department of Innovation

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00:39:09.685 --> 00:39:10.160
Technology.

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00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:15.229
Those words are in it and pretty
straightforward that that's the

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00:39:15.229 --> 00:39:16.480
appropriate alt text.

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00:39:16.600 --> 00:39:19.040
DoIT Illinois Department of
Innovation and Technology.

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00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:23.097
Notice I don't have to put in
the word picture or logo or

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00:39:23.097 --> 00:39:23.480
image.

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00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:25.670
Screen readers will
automatically say that this is

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00:39:25.670 --> 00:39:26.000
an image.

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00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:28.417
Most screen readers will say
there's a graphic and then it

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00:39:28.417 --> 00:39:29.360
will read the alt text.

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00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:33.165
So you don't need to put in the
words that say picture of, image

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00:39:33.165 --> 00:39:35.000
of, logo of, anything like that.

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00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:37.640
It's not necessary. Screen
readers have got that covered.

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00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:42.107
So just simply what are the
words in the image that convey

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00:39:42.107 --> 00:39:45.240
what I'm trying to convey by
including that.

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00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:48.753
And again I'm just trying to say
I'm part of DoIT and those words

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00:39:48.753 --> 00:39:50.440
are in the image, so really
easy.

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00:39:51.200 --> 00:39:54.960
So that's what will happen if
you take us up on our challenge.

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00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:58.595
You go to office.outlook.com,
you find that check box and

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00:39:58.595 --> 00:39:59.160
check it.

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00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:01.200
People who send you e-mail.

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00:40:01.200 --> 00:40:04.612
If they do include something in
their e-mail that that Outlook

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00:40:04.612 --> 00:40:07.646
can recognize as being a
potential accessibility issue,

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00:40:07.646 --> 00:40:10.625
they'll get this simple,
friendly reminder, hold their

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00:40:10.625 --> 00:40:14.200
hand a little bit towards making
a fix and and and hopefully help

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00:40:14.200 --> 00:40:15.880
them think about accessibility.

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00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:17.680
You know, that's really the goal
here.

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00:40:18.680 --> 00:40:21.909
You know, it's pretty easy to
write an accessible e-mail if

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00:40:21.909 --> 00:40:23.040
you just write words.

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00:40:23.200 --> 00:40:25.348
And that's maybe a good point
too, if there's nothing that's

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00:40:25.348 --> 00:40:25.560
wrong,

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00:40:25.560 --> 00:40:27.680
if I didn't have that image that
was missing alt text,

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00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:29.160
I wouldn't get the message.

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00:40:29.160 --> 00:40:31.773
So it's not like you're going to
be bothering people who are just

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00:40:31.773 --> 00:40:33.040
sending simple text only emails.

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00:40:33.760 --> 00:40:35.640
There's no no message will come
up for that.

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00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:39.680
But if they include an image or
they do some fancy formatting

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00:40:39.680 --> 00:40:43.520
they include, you know, they put
colors on their fonts that are

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00:40:43.520 --> 00:40:45.080
too light to meet contrast

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00:40:45.680 --> 00:40:48.253
They do some fancy layout with
tables that might cause some

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00:40:48.253 --> 00:40:48.640
problems.

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00:40:48.840 --> 00:40:54.211
Those are the kinds of issues
that the checker will prompt and

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00:40:54.211 --> 00:40:55.320
help you fix.

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00:40:55.800 --> 00:40:57.600
So it's probably a good thing to
point out.

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00:40:57.600 --> 00:40:58.400
You know these checkers

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00:40:58.400 --> 00:40:59.080
they're great.

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00:40:59.080 --> 00:41:00.840
They're a great step in the
right direction.

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00:41:01.040 --> 00:41:01.800
Use them.

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00:41:02.160 --> 00:41:02.760
Learn them.

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00:41:03.120 --> 00:41:04.040
Take advantage of it.

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00:41:04.040 --> 00:41:05.640
It will become second nature.

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00:41:05.640 --> 00:41:07.880
You won't even have to have to
think about it.

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00:41:09.160 --> 00:41:10.720
But it's not

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00:41:10.720 --> 00:41:11.840
It's not the end of the process.

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00:41:11.840 --> 00:41:13.689
There are more things. You know,
the checkers can't check

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00:41:13.689 --> 00:41:14.040
everything.

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00:41:14.040 --> 00:41:17.629
There can be more things that go
into accessibility if you get

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00:41:17.629 --> 00:41:21.161
fancier, probably fancier than
what we ever want to put in an

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00:41:21.161 --> 00:41:21.560
e-mail.

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But you know, certainly in Word
documents of PowerPoints you can

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00:41:24.344 --> 00:41:24.800
get fancier.

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00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:25.960


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There are a few more things that
that that are involved in in

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00:41:28.295 --> 00:41:29.200
accessibility for those.

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00:41:29.200 --> 00:41:30.560
So it's not the end

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00:41:30.720 --> 00:41:32.640
Using the checker is the
beginning, not the end.

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00:41:33.400 --> 00:41:37.382
And for those additional things,
we provide information and I'll

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00:41:37.382 --> 00:41:39.160
come back here for questions.

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00:41:39.160 --> 00:41:40.480
Good, we got time for questions.

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00:41:40.720 --> 00:41:42.816
But before we get to the
questions, I do want to share

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00:41:42.816 --> 00:41:45.104
with you where we've got some
more information that you can

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00:41:45.104 --> 00:41:45.600
follow up on.

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00:41:45.600 --> 00:41:49.171
So at the DoIT website,
doit.illinois.gov I'm going to

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00:41:49.171 --> 00:41:50.600
go ahead and go there.

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Loading.

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Bear with me.

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00:41:56.120 --> 00:41:57.320
Usually this is fast.

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00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:05.121
OK, well, what we're going to
see here in a moment, let me try

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00:42:05.121 --> 00:42:06.120
that again.

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Going to go to the main DoIT
website, there we go,

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00:42:09.365 --> 00:42:13.311
doit.illinois.gov If you scroll
down a little bit, you'll see

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00:42:13.311 --> 00:42:16.748
we've got initiatives,
accessibility here, one of our

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00:42:16.748 --> 00:42:20.440
main initiatives also available
off the initiatives menu.

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00:42:20.720 --> 00:42:22.160
So we'll get here to
accessibility.

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00:42:22.160 --> 00:42:24.182
This is our accessibility page,
this is where I was trying to

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00:42:24.182 --> 00:42:24.280
go.

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00:42:25.080 --> 00:42:27.600
We've got information about the
law, IITAA.

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00:42:27.600 --> 00:42:29.781
If you're interested in the 2.1
standards, that's where they

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00:42:29.781 --> 00:42:29.960
live.

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00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:33.319
Guides, which is where there's a
whole bunch of useful

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00:42:33.319 --> 00:42:35.889
information about some of the
things that we just talked

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00:42:35.889 --> 00:42:36.160
about.

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Training, kind of a placeholder.

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We do offer lots of training.

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00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:39.920


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We do it mostly ad hoc.

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00:42:41.360 --> 00:42:43.680
So if you've got a need for
training, let us know.

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00:42:43.680 --> 00:42:46.088
We're happy to set one up. And
then Testing, that's it gets a

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00:42:46.088 --> 00:42:48.147
little bit more technical but
when we're testing web

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00:42:48.147 --> 00:42:50.440
applications for accessibility,
we've got a whole process.

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00:42:51.160 --> 00:42:53.529
Some of our partners in the
corporate sector have helped to

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00:42:53.529 --> 00:42:54.240
put that together.

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00:42:54.560 --> 00:42:56.600
But what I want to focus on
today is the guides.

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00:42:56.600 --> 00:43:00.899
This is probably what's going to
be most useful in our everyday

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00:43:00.899 --> 00:43:04.996
IT challenge, so I'm going to
click on Guides, hopefully get

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00:43:04.996 --> 00:43:05.399
there.

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00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:10.548
OK, what we're going to see in a
moment here, I don't know, maybe

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00:43:10.548 --> 00:43:12.560
my video is slowing my Internet
connection down.

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00:43:13.040 --> 00:43:17.590
What we're going to see on
guides is a list of

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00:43:17.590 --> 00:43:23.303
accessibility guides for Word,
Outlook, PowerPoint, Webex,

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00:43:23.303 --> 00:43:27.080
InDesign, and a whole bunch of
others.

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00:43:27.080 --> 00:43:32.640
Color contrast, The Outlook one
there has, at the very top of it

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00:43:32.640 --> 00:43:37.520
It's got a refresher of of what
we just talked about.

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00:43:37.640 --> 00:43:39.880
So sorry it's not wanting to
load here for me.

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00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:42.720
Let me try it again real quick
if not, there we go.

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00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:45.520
So here we've got a list of our
accessibility guides.

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00:43:45.520 --> 00:43:47.655
You see there's a whole bunch of
these are all except for the

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00:43:47.655 --> 00:43:48.000
first one.

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00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:49.480
Web accessibility is a little
technical.

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00:43:49.720 --> 00:43:52.240
All the others are focused on
everyday IT.

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00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:54.920
So encourage you to take a look
at the guides here.

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00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:57.493
I've gone to the Outlook
accessibility guide. Right at

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00:43:57.493 --> 00:43:59.973
the top we've got text
instructions to do what we've

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00:43:59.973 --> 00:44:02.640
just looked at, doing. Ill add
an image to back that up.

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00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:06.819
And then also basically if you
want to write accessible emails,

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00:44:06.819 --> 00:44:09.440
here's how to do it in eight
simple steps.

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00:44:09.960 --> 00:44:13.458
So I would encourage you to take
advantage of these guides if you

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00:44:13.458 --> 00:44:14.200
got questions.

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00:44:14.240 --> 00:44:21.925
And then also if you if you have
questions, feel free to contact

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00:44:21.925 --> 00:44:22.280
us.

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00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:23.720
DoIT Office of Information
Accessibility.

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00:44:23.720 --> 00:44:26.612
That's my team,
doit.accessibility@illinois.gov

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00:44:26.612 --> 00:44:30.469
Feel free to e-mail us just with
your questions or if you would

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00:44:30.469 --> 00:44:32.880
like some more training on any
of this.

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So with that, I will back up and
just open the floor for

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00:44:37.785 --> 00:44:38.520
questions.

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Actually, I want to make a shout
out for TJ Schlouski, who's

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00:44:41.464 --> 00:44:44.553
sitting just behind my shoulder
over here where you can't quite

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00:44:44.553 --> 00:44:47.159
see him, who's been monitoring
chat and stuff for me.

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00:44:47.160 --> 00:44:49.400
So, TJ, do we have any chat
questions that need answering?

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00:44:49.600 --> 00:44:49.760
Yeah.

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Lori has a very interesting
question about how have physical

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00:44:53.675 --> 00:44:56.675
orthopedic disabilities been
considered in addressing web

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00:44:56.675 --> 00:44:57.400
accessibility.

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OK, and in case you can't hear
TJ talking from behind me there,

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00:45:02.357 --> 00:45:06.560
it's Lori's question about how
have physical disabilities

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00:45:06.560 --> 00:45:10.980
considerations for physical
disabilities and how much impact

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00:45:10.980 --> 00:45:12.720
access for some persons.

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00:45:12.720 --> 00:45:15.009
How have physical orthopaedic
disabilities been considered in

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00:45:15.009 --> 00:45:16.080
addressing web accessibility?

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OK, great question.

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Back on the pie chart I was
sharing earlier, we didn't have

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great data,

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The data from the CDC that was
about physical disabilities was

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broken down into some
categories, mobility, self-care

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and independent living.

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None of them really lined up
well

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you know, obviously someone can
have a mobility issue and it

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00:45:35.510 --> 00:45:37.682
doesn't impact, you know, I can
use a wheelchair and it doesn't

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00:45:37.682 --> 00:45:39.040
affect me using a computer in 
any way.

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We didn't have a category there
that really lined up.

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This the self-care category was
maybe the closest one that would

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speak to manual dexterity issues
and that's where accessibility

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00:45:49.701 --> 00:45:52.360
for IT is impacted by physical
disabilities.

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The the self-care category if
you're interested had a 4%

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number attached to it.

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We actually had a little sliver
of the pie that represented that

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00:46:01.286 --> 00:46:05.205
and there are issues some of the
foundational principles of

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accessibility.

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The one example I started with
today was the alt text for an

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image and that's kind of
accessibility 101, but clearly

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that's about, you know, visual
disabilities.

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If we were to go to #2, I would
have talked about keyboard

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accessibility and the first
thing that we see when

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00:46:21.138 --> 00:46:24.441
addressing the needs of people
with physical impairments that

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00:46:24.441 --> 00:46:27.850
affect the use of their hands,
which might be something from as

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simple as arthritis or carpal
tunnel syndrome all the way up

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00:46:31.099 --> 00:46:34.294
to, I mean a severe cerebral
palsy or maybe even amputation

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00:46:34.294 --> 00:46:35.520
and and the full range.

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But the first thing that becomes
difficult to use is the mouse.

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So one of the first and
foundational principles of

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00:46:40.907 --> 00:46:43.089
accessibility is everything
needs to work with keyboard

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00:46:43.089 --> 00:46:43.440
commands.

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So that way if I can't use a
mouse but I can use a keyboard,

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00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:49.306
I'm good to go if I need to use
an enlarged or specialized

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00:46:49.306 --> 00:46:49.720
keyboard.

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If I'm using speech recognition,
talking to my computer and

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00:46:53.250 --> 00:46:56.527
giving it commands, it typically
interacts through a keyboard

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00:46:56.527 --> 00:46:57.320
type interface.

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So that that would have been
accessibility 102

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It's keyboard operability and
there are requirements in WCAG

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2.0 and 2.1 that speak to
keyboard accessibility.

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There are also some new
requirements.

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One of the new requirements in
WCAG 2.1 is about labeling

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00:47:18.162 --> 00:47:21.503
things in such a way that speech
recognition will work

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00:47:21.503 --> 00:47:22.840
effectively with them.

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So great question.

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You know we typically do focus
on on the needs of people with

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visual impairments but that's
not all there is to it.

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We talked about people with
hearing impairments and people

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with cognitive disabilities but
also add to that people with

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physical impairments.

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If we had better data about it

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I would have highlighted on that
slide.

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So appreciate the question.

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It is very important and again
keyboard accessibility is kind

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of the start of accessibility
for people with physical

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impairments and then it goes
from there.

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TJ, any other questions? Chris
Garrett is asking the question

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that he's heard that tables can
be tricky when using screen

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readers.

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Do you have any suggestions on
table formatting when creating

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tables in Word docs?

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Great question.

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If you couldn't quite hear, it's
Chris's question about using

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tables and how do we make tables
accessible using screen readers?

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00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:18.040
How would we do it in a Word
document?

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I'm going to use that to
shamelessly plug our guide which

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speaks exactly to that.

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So if you make it back to the
DoIT Accessibility site Guide

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for Word, we actually have a
recommendation about tables.

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The good news about tables is
screen readers have become

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really, really powerful.

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And they can

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you know, we started with the
simple stuff today, but it gets

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much more advanced than that.

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And screen readers can read
tables of data very effectively.

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If the tables are created
properly.

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In Word, it doesn't get too
complicated and it's really a

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matter of keeping it simple.

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00:48:57.160 --> 00:49:00.770
So in Word, kind of the
principles for using tables,

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which really applies to most
everything that we're going to

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00:49:04.858 --> 00:49:09.286
talk about in everyday IT is use
the tool in your program that's

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designed to do the thing you
want to do.

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So if I'm making a table, I want
to use the table feature in

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Word.

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If I'm making columns, I want to
use the column feature.

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If I'm making lists, I want to
use lists.

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You know, don't make a table by,
you know, you could probably

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find a way to draw lines and and
whatnot.

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Don't do that.

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You want to use the features
that are designed support, in

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00:49:30.180 --> 00:49:31.120
this case tables.

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They will have the best
accessibility support.

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So first of all, use the table
feature in Word to make tables.

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Don't draw lines.

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Don't use tabs.

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Don't use columns, Use tables.

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Secondly, keep it simple.

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And that's always a good
approach.

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It's not that we can't get
complex, we can.

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We actually have the tools
today.

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As I said, screen readers have
gotten really advanced.

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00:49:49.240 --> 00:49:51.868
Other assistant technologies
have as well, and they can do

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00:49:51.868 --> 00:49:52.760
more advanced stuff.

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But when you're starting, it's
easier to keep it simple.

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With great power comes great
responsibility.

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If you want to get fancy, you're
going to do a little more work

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00:50:00.113 --> 00:50:00.840
to make it accessible.

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00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:02.920
So as a start, keep it simple.

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When it comes to tables, that
means keeping it,

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you know, column headers in the
first row, row headers in the

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first column, and really, you're
good to go.

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Avoid merging cells.

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And then there's one extra
setting in Word that we outline

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here about repeating header
rows, and that's it.

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If you stick to those five dot
points, you have an accessible

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table in Word, and a screen
reader is going to do 

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a really good job of allowing a
user to read through that.

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They can actually read through
it in two dimensions.

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They can hit any cell, they can
say tell me the headers of this

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column in this row.

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Very, very powerful if you use
tables correctly.

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So and that's really a good

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again, a good theme to end on
this stuff doesn't have to be

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00:50:40.071 --> 00:50:42.280
complicated, really. Use the
right tool.

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00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:45.955
Use the tool how it's meant to
be used, Keep it simple. Refer

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00:50:45.955 --> 00:50:49.600
to our guides and ask for help,
ask for training if you need it.

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So appreciate the set up there,
Chris, TJ, another question, we

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00:50:53.430 --> 00:50:55.040
got time for one or two more?

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We have one from Kim Phipps
regarding timekeeping forms and

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PDF formats.

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00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:06.053
What solutions would you suggest
to addressing the easiest way

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00:51:06.053 --> 00:51:10.520
for electronic time keeping
systems that are not acceptable.

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00:51:10.880 --> 00:51:13.713
So hopefully you saw, you
probably can see Kim's chat

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00:51:13.713 --> 00:51:14.920
there, and welcome Kim.

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I want to give a shout out to
Kim.

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I think I saw Judy West on the
call.

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Kurt Potter might be here.
They're our A-Team. We use them,

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as screen reader users,

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00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:27.400
we use them to check stuff that
we're needing a double check on.

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So appreciate the A-Team and
Kim. Time keeping forms, PDF

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00:51:32.349 --> 00:51:33.800
forms in general,

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00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:37.600
you know, we actually have a
guide about PDF forms.

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00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:39.360
They can be a little bit
challenging.

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00:51:39.680 --> 00:51:44.884
The easiest way to do PDF forms
is to use a tool called Adobe

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00:51:44.884 --> 00:51:45.640
Designer.

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We won't go into the weeds on
this but there are some

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00:51:50.641 --> 00:51:53.880
guidelines, some steps here that
are involved.

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00:51:54.560 --> 00:51:57.032
Part of the problem that we
have, you know this really kind

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00:51:57.032 --> 00:51:58.680
of speaks to the everyday IT
challenge.

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00:51:58.680 --> 00:52:02.668
I think the biggest problem with
forms is not that form PDF forms

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00:52:02.668 --> 00:52:06.535
can't be accessible, it's that
PDF forms fall into the everyday

3273a82c-0e7e-4fb0-8d05-bd5d26c73ec9-2
00:52:06.535 --> 00:52:10.040
IT category and too often the
people creating them, just,

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00:52:10.040 --> 00:52:12.040
accessibility is not on the
radar.

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We've worked extensively and if
we got anybody from the DHS

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00:52:15.001 --> 00:52:17.240
Forms Management group on the
call, shout out to them.

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00:52:17.240 --> 00:52:20.162
We've worked extensively with
them on how to make accessible

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00:52:20.162 --> 00:52:21.840
PDF forms. It's absolutely
doable.

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It's it really to go back to
what Secretary Gupta just said

384851a5-497b-45cd-aaab-fde117cdb95f-1
00:52:25.076 --> 00:52:25.880
in the beginning.

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It's really about awareness.

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00:52:27.520 --> 00:52:30.172
It's are the people who are
making these forms, do they know

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00:52:30.172 --> 00:52:31.520
that it needs to be accessible?

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00:52:31.520 --> 00:52:33.990
Do they know that there are
resources available to them to

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00:52:33.990 --> 00:52:34.200
help?

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00:52:34.560 --> 00:52:38.153
So I think the biggest
suggestion I can offer there is

5816bedc-30c0-419a-b8e9-d94b7730e79f-1
00:52:38.153 --> 00:52:42.335
help us get the word out, help
us spread the word that everyday

5816bedc-30c0-419a-b8e9-d94b7730e79f-2
00:52:42.335 --> 00:52:46.190
IT including forms and Word
documents and emails and Excel

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00:52:46.190 --> 00:52:47.040
spreadsheets.

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They do have accessibility
considerations.

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00:52:49.600 --> 00:52:51.560
There's guides, there's steps
that you can follow.

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We can all do our part.

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But I think the biggest problem
and and I think Andrew kind of

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00:52:56.938 --> 00:53:00.357
spoke to this too, is, you know,
too often we're playing catch

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00:53:00.357 --> 00:53:00.520
up.

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Somebody made a form, they
weren't thinking about

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00:53:03.776 --> 00:53:04.520
accessibility.

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It's sent to somebody who's
using a screen reader and it's a

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00:53:08.426 --> 00:53:08.920
disaster.

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00:53:08.920 --> 00:53:12.386
And then we're scrambling to try
to remake the form, figure out,

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00:53:12.386 --> 00:53:15.160
you know, what can be changed,
how do we change it.

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00:53:15.160 --> 00:53:19.280
So it's, I think it's mostly an
awareness issue.

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00:53:19.480 --> 00:53:22.132
So help us get the word out that
that's really the core of the

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everyday IT challenge and
certainly take advantage of the

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resources that we're talking
about today, point people that

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direction and feel free to
contact us for help.

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So thanks again, Kim.

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I see Vani has asked a couple
questions here about Excel.

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Excel is a little bit trickier.

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We don't have a guide posted yet
for Excel.

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We've got a start on one.

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We'll get it up there. The
number one, maybe I'll say two,

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things about Excel.

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Number 1, keep it simple.

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Say if you do a table like I
described for Word based on

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Chris's question, you keep it
simple.

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Column headers in the first row.

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Row headers in the first column.

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Excel is pretty accessible right
off the bat.

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The problem with Excel is that
it often gets used,

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as I mentioned earlier, use the
right tool, and Excel often gets

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used in cases where it's not the
right tool.

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Excel is not meant for forms.

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If you're making a form in
Excel, you're probably not going

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to be able to make it accessible
because it's not meant for that.

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So I think we will get an Excel,

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again we've got one in the
works,

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We'll get an Excel accessibility
guide posted here.

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Please check back.

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Let us know if you've got
specific questions about it.

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For now, use it when you're
trying to show tables of data

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and keep it simple.

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All right.

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I think that's all the questions
in the chat.

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Thank you again, TJ, if there's
any last questions, feel free to

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chat them in if you want to
raise a hand to ask a question.

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We got a couple minutes left.

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Otherwise, thank you for
listening.

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Thanks again.

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We had I think about 177 people
at at our peak.

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Appreciate you coming today.

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Appreciate everybody who is
willing to take us up on the

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everyday accessibility
challenge.

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Again, we'll have the
instructions and information

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posted on our website, and feel
free to reach out

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doit.accessibility@illinois.gov
at any time and hopefully we'll

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talk again before next Global
Accessibility Awareness Day.

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Thanks, everybody.

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Special thanks to Secretary
Gupta, to Andrew Webb and to our

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interpreters, and to to Val, who
ran all this behind the scenes.

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So thank you everybody.